Anyone have ideas for games I can play with my headmates? Most of them don't know possession just yet and our switching is a bit shaky at the moment.(edited)
ive heard of doing popcorn writing w your headmates, like each of you comes up with a key word and then you take turns building off of what the others wrote.
ive heard of doing popcorn writing w your headmates, like each of you comes up with a key word and then you take turns building off of what the others wrote.
Yeah, sure I guess. It seems like the only thing with a point (in our humble opinion), and switching doesn't seem to be any easier in concept or practice.
At least according to others, and what I'd gather from my understanding of hypnosis, which is core to imposition. I also do kinetic imposition myself and it's inherently a prolonged process.
11:36 PM
But switching is just a mindset thing, like tulpamancy itself.
Not much I can say. It's never been something that's interested us.
11:41 PM
Seems to be the point for a lot of hosts. But if it's just the same as it always is just with me at the wheel? Can't say that sounds like much fun. Might just be an "us" thing.
Not all tulpas need or want to switch. Unsurprisingly, imposition is more rare nowadays.
While we have some very basic sensory imposition skills, I'm not terribly interested in developing my imposition skills. Gray is more interested in imposition, and right now his focus is to gradually build his art skills to develop his visualization skills. I'm more interested in exploring parallel processing, but my desire comes and goes. I'm very interested in studying switching closely because I hope to publish a guide one day.
I suspect switching can be easier, depending on the type of switching. Wonderland switching is more or less unheard of, and honestly I don't know if it's possible or different from sensory-based switching. I believe wonderland switching and parallel processing are deeply related to each other, and you need the latter to achieve the former.(edited)
Well after 8 years of imposition forcing regularly with little to no signs of progress we're both doubting if any of it besides the talking is even real or possible. All of it is arcane at the best of times.
8 is anomalous for no progress. We'd wonder if you are either inherently unsuggestible meaning you need a radical mindset change; Or whether you have no prophantasia ability.
Well after 8 years of imposition forcing regularly with little to no signs of progress we're both doubting if any of it besides the talking is even real or possible. All of it is arcane at the best of times.
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strange, while we're in no way skilled in imposition, we can make basic visual and tactile impositions with enough focus, its hard to keep up the visual ones though.
That step is just a suggestion to try and make your mind do the action of imposition, from what I'd gather. Make no mistake, in theory, you should have the ability to change your sight innately to some degree. Like when you close your eyes, can you shift the shapes behind your closed eyelids with effort?(edited)
I can't visually impose and my tactile sensation is weak, but I'm primed to react to my headmates if they interact with me. For example, I will flinch or look if my headmate is about to pie my face with a whipped cream pie, but my sensory experience isn't super intense.
8 years of regular forcing and no progress sounds really weird.
That step is just a suggestion to try and make your mind do the action of imposition, from what I'd gather. Make no mistake, in theory, you should have the ability to change your sight innately to some degree. Like when you close your eyes, can you shift the shapes behind your closed eyelids with effort?
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Shapes? If you mean the visual noise, no, not at all.
On that point you might benefit from looking up some not-tulpamancy related aphantasia/mind's eye stuff. Seeing if you can do their training stuff. It's a toss up as to whether these kinds of things are innate to your brain or not, but people do say they overcome it.
12:01 AM
But it probably does need specific stuff.
12:01 AM
Rather than just beating your proverbial head against the wall.
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Yeah, I mean if we're thinking of an idea like a movie playing out we can visualize a scene, but it's more like a concept of a scene. It's basically the same as open eyed visualisation where you can "see" the idea. Not exactly visualization in the sense of setting down and closing your eyes and creating an image in your head.
Will have to look into the stuff you're talking about.
12:11 AM
Sounds promising. Understanding the actual phenomena is usually the key for our learning process. It took two years of Valerie doing the research and testing things before it "clicked" and I actually became.
Hmm, well I can't judge there as tulpamancy for me has been 99% intuition. We basically winged everything and my first tulpa was a walk in before I even knew what tulpamancy was.(edited)
In my defense, growing up in a cult and learning that all the things you were forced to learn for a solid 9 years of your life was all a lie will do that to you.
Have you had any luck with Ganzfeld imposition methods? Those use the noise on the back of your eyelids as the canvas for imposition, but I find I can use that to "stamp" a mental image onto the noise. Sometimes I can also see something more vivid by trying to see pictures in the noise, like looking for faces in the clouds.
While maybe not the Ganzfeld effect necessarily, hypnagogic hallucinations can be fun to play around with. I tend to get weird fractaly stuff, but I don't do it often because then I don't sleep
I think I managed to conquer my own suggestibility but it took a rather personal set of experiences I don't think benefit anyone else.
12:18 AM
I wish I could say it was just a matter of studying hypnosis, but that actually came after the whole revelatory bullshit
Nebri
Sounds promising. Understanding the actual phenomena is usually the key for our learning process. It took two years of Valerie doing the research and testing things before it "clicked" and I actually became.
Have you had any luck with Ganzfeld imposition methods? Those use the noise on the back of your eyelids as the canvas for imposition, but I find I can use that to "stamp" a mental image onto the noise. Sometimes I can also see something more vivid by trying to see pictures in the noise, like looking for faces in the clouds. While maybe not the Ganzfeld effect necessarily, hypnagogic hallucinations can be fun to play around with. I tend to get weird fractaly stuff, but I don't do it often because then I don't sleep
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Sounds familiar. The name Ganzfeld is definitely rolling around in here.
12:21 AM
I think I managed to conquer my own suggestibility but it took a rather personal set of experiences I don't think benefit anyone else.
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Don't sweat it. This whole thing is a personal journey from start to finish and no two minds will ever solve the same problem the exact same way every time
I think the core of it for the unsuggestible is that pretending alone isn't enough for us. You need to somehow trick yourself into doing the things you can only dream of doing, and then realize you can do them at will. That's the reductive way of how I figured it out.
12:24 AM
Once you know how to do it, as you put it, you can do it.
12:25 AM
I did so without knowing I was doing so, which makes any attempt I do at directing you toward that pretty pointless.
While I imagine the approach of wanting things to happen, realizing they can happen, and then they happen works for a lot of people, it doesn't really work for me. While we are highly suggestive, I have a hard time believing in something I don't understand. Sometimes the barrier is doubt, but given the parallel processing research I have done, I think my head is in the clouds. I typically ask myself the question "how can I do this thing?" and then once I figure out a plan, that works for me.
While anything could change in the future, I find at least for now, I need more guidance in order to develop new tulpamancy skills.
Having the form down seems like s very important part of imposition, though
12:41 AM
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A long kiss goodnight
While I imagine the approach of wanting things to happen, realizing they can happen, and then they happen works for a lot of people, it doesn't really work for me. While we are highly suggestive, I have a hard time believing in something I don't understand. Sometimes the barrier is doubt, but given the parallel processing research I have done, I think my head is in the clouds. I typically ask myself the question "how can I do this thing?" and then once I figure out a plan, that works for me.
While anything could change in the future, I find at least for now, I need more guidance in order to develop new tulpamancy skills.
This is not high on engaging with stimuli positively. It portrays fear, rather than the openness indicative of suggestibility. I think you've shown suggestibility as a biological or personality trait before. But this line of thought isn't that.(edited)
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